he has done a good job of disqualifying mitt romney and he is working against that and romney needs to get back to all the voters who might think he is not as qualified to be president and prove to that he is. >> gregg: i'm struck by the number of pundits and journalists that sort of pro nourng nounsing this race as over -- pronouncing this race as over. they said undecided voters historically choose the challenger. you would expect the remaining undecided voters to break not exclusively but disproportionately for mitt romney rather than president obama. does that make the debates all the more relevant and vital? >> no question about it. i would pointed out to you in a lot of these swing states, president obama is getting up to about 50% getting close and in some states he is just about over. it doesn't matter necessarily if there is a 4-point difference if he is reaching the 50% mark he is good shape. a lot of these voters are still waiting to see what mitt romney will bring. i talked to undecided voter in ohio the other day and he said he has taken his kids to president obama's ralli